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Pagan Journeys => Pagan Chat => Topic started by: OldMan on September 18, 2013, 09:07:30 AM

Title: Past Present Future
Post by: OldMan on September 18, 2013, 09:07:30 AM
We remember the past

We plan for the future

Is there a present and if so can you explain it?
Title: Re: Past Present Future
Post by: Ghost Wolf on September 18, 2013, 11:02:54 AM
Can you?
Title: Re: Past Present Future
Post by: Eternal Seeker on September 18, 2013, 12:59:39 PM

Realistically, as slowly as our biological minds work, "present" has to be a continuum, based on perception, and variable for the purposes of the discussion. Any other definition would have to be for the purposes of idle discussion only.

peace,
ES
Title: Re: Past Present Future
Post by: FairyQueen on September 18, 2013, 01:41:48 PM

Realistically, as slowly as our biological minds work, "present" has to be a continuum, based on perception, and variable for the purposes of the discussion. Any other definition would have to be for the purposes of idle discussion only.

peace,
ES


I agree with ES!
Title: Re: Past Present Future
Post by: Tirya on September 18, 2013, 08:24:36 PM
Technically since we don't perceive the "now" until the light hits our eyes and is interpreted by our brains, everything we're seeing "now" actually happened a nanosecond in the past. So technically there is no "present".

I have been doing too much stargazing lately, and realizing that the light we're seeing from stars now actually was emitted years ago has been kind of messing with my mind. :D
Title: Re: Past Present Future
Post by: VisionFromAfar on September 18, 2013, 10:56:15 PM
Actually, there was a fun alien race introduced in the Star Wars novels (the Vratix, the insectoids who create bacta, the magic healing juice Luke gets dunked in in Ep V after his Wampa two-step) that insist on touching a speaker during conversation and interaction, due to the limited transmittance and interpretation times of sound and light, touch being the most immediate and therefore "present"/truest sense.

...Gods I'm such a nerd.

Quick, distract with strawberreh kitteh!
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Title: Re: Past Present Future
Post by: vordan on September 20, 2013, 08:35:19 PM
Reality is a matter of perception, I think that art actually teaches philosophy better then a thousand philosophy books. We define our reality by our perception, space is defines by our minds, texture by distance. In art there is the concept of performance art something experience as it happens rather then looked at as a static thing. it was a rebellion against the concept that art was a commodity, something definable. Life is performance art, it is the now. The other metaphor I like is the one of a river, if you look at a river the water is in constant motion. There is no river but there is if you accept that it is a constant state of change. "Now" exists like the river or like the performance art it is the experience not the thing.