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Dragonspring, your opinion?
« on: March 28, 2011, 06:29:31 PM »

Hey, DS,

I stumbled upon this site. Sounds like a good way to go solar. I'm trying to figure out how it might possibly backfire. Do you have any thoughts on this?

http://www.sungevity.com/
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Re: Dragonspring, your opinion?
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2011, 07:07:26 PM »

The things I would watch out for:

They probably use local contractors for installation.  The quality of work probably varies somewhat.  The warranty and service agreement that they include might mitigate this somewhat but I would read the fine print on those to be sure they are all inclusive.  Also, since they are working on your roof, you should check the terms for what happens if they cause damage to the existing structure and cause roof leaks or other damage during installation. 

This lease purchase thing is not unusual in the energy conservation business.  Most of the multimillion dollar projects I have been working on have similar terms. 10 years is not a bad lease time considering the upfront costs but you need to have something saying what the buyout is at the end of the lease. Ours are usually a dollar.

Obviously, the lease might be a problem if you want to sell your house before the term expires.

It would probably be good to check with the local utility about the net metering thing.  I am not sure that all utility companies are set up for that.  Also, there are probably incentives that you would qualify for.

That's all I can think of for now.  I sent the link to my work email and I will check around in the business to see if anyone has heard of these folks.
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Re: Dragonspring, your opinion?
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2011, 03:03:36 PM »

I showed it to a couple of our energy guys here.  They said it looked like a reasonable program, especially considering utility rates out there. (Wow, ya'll sure do pay a lot per KWH!)  One guy did say that the utility rebates and tax breaks go to the "owner" of the system and since it is a lease, that would not be the homeowner.  He said payback would probably be in the 7-8 year range for an outright purchase not including the rebates and stuff.
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Re: Dragonspring, your opinion?
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2011, 08:37:25 PM »

Thanks, DS.  ()
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Re: Dragonspring, your opinion?
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2011, 09:28:50 PM »

If you lived here in Tennessee, you'd have pretty cheap electric rates, and allergies.  :D
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Re: Dragonspring, your opinion?
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2011, 11:22:56 PM »

I'd love to live in Tennessee. I'm sure it would feel more like home and where I was raised (Virginia) than here. Here we have lots of "fruits and nuts" and a more austere kind of beauty to the landscape as well as very bad allergies. And no country ham. :( Country ham would make everything better.  :whistle:
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Re: Dragonspring, your opinion?
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2011, 12:59:16 AM »

The South is the only place you can get real food.  :D
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Re: Dragonspring, your opinion?
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2011, 01:49:45 AM »

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Re: Dragonspring, your opinion?
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2011, 08:05:21 PM »

The South is the only place you can get real food.  :D
It is not! I can COOK, so my family ALWAYS gets real food!
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Re: Dragonspring, your opinion?
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2011, 08:09:20 PM »

It may be the only place you can get real county ham though.  :D
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Re: Dragonspring, your opinion?
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2011, 08:10:25 PM »

I'm not sure where I am counts as the south and we have some pretty good ham.  :D
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Re: Dragonspring, your opinion?
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2011, 08:11:10 PM »

It may be the only place you can get real county ham though.  :D
Mail order.

Or, send my brother wild boar hunting. Hams from wild boar are AWESOME!
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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2011, 08:11:34 PM »

Now I know what to send to EM for Yule...
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2011, 08:12:13 PM »

Don't forget the calendar!  :D
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Re: Dragonspring, your opinion?
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2011, 08:46:50 PM »

It may be the only place you can get real county ham though.  :D
Mail order.

Or, send my brother wild boar hunting. Hams from wild boar are AWESOME!

Hmmm, that's one animal I haven't tried and I have eaten quite a few different wildlife in my time. Undoubtedly it is good.

FYI, "Virginia" or "country" ham is a dry salt-cured ham different than the regular hams you buy in the store most places. It's sort of a local delicacy so I don't know if you can get it outside of Virginia though I imagine people might eat it in North Carolina or other surrounding states. You have to soak it and cook it correctly to remove a lot of the salt in order to make it edible. It's delicious on biscuits, but you have to like salt. My folks just went to Virginia so that must be why I am having a country ham craving. Sadly, I didn't think to ask them to bring some back.

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Re: Dragonspring, your opinion?
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2011, 07:07:59 PM »

Yep.  It has its very own kiosk at the grocery stores around here.
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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2011, 07:19:31 PM »

Clifty Farms.  :D
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